it seems to me, that our main points of difference lie in your approach being:

“we need to do this or that” (ie via government intervention etc)

and mine, which, basically is that the average person will not tolerate directives that have no immediate and tangible personal benefit, particular so when applied to our immediate future, where those directives are going to have to be very unpleasant indeed.

I sometimes try to take a very broad perspective on all this (public attitudes to the common good etc) and think it might somehow go back thousands of years; the Romans occupied the main swathe of southern Europe, but not the Germanic north.

There seems to me to be a very different attitude to governance in those two regions. Even the Scots and English are very different. The dividing line, if there is one, would appear to be roughly that of the original Roman Empire.

But that’s just my theory on it. I can’t think of anything else that would account for the differences. And they are certainly there and very obvious,

It certainly fits ‘attitudes’ prevalent in the Americas where the invading populations were Italian/Spanish. North America is different, having more of a northern European mixture.

On that basis, no matter what ‘’needs to be done’’ and how critical that action is, if it involves being directed from outside, it will be rejected. None of the American nations will accept central governance. Right now Trump is rolling back controls and letting individuals do what they want to do. The majority think this is a ‘’good thing’’ despite it being insane.

To offer an example: The profligate Greeks needed a bailout by the richer nations of northern Europe, but they have not taken kindly to the directive that they have got to live within their (energy constrained) means.

By that I mean that the average Greek, having got used to a certain standard of living, insists that it is maintained, irrespective of fiscal reality. Greece flounders along in crushing debt, refusing to understand why / how the Germans stay solvent.

Saying: — the Greeks must do this or that doesn’t get through to the average Greek who is struggling on a reduced pension or whatever.

That applies everywhere.

People will not accept control on broad issues. When oil reaches the point non-availability, they will still ‘’blame’’ somebody else, and expect ‘’somebody else’’ to fix things — -on the strict understanding that their personal circumstances remain unaffected. (as with the Greek situation).

One can apply that to the current Brexit nonsense. Unthinking idiots expected it not to affect them personally. (a case of having cake and eating it if you like)

Taking oil out of the system will ultimately result in violent civil disorder, because the average individual will have no other option left. No ‘directive’ from anyone is going to change that.

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